Tuesday, December 1, 2009

REVISED:How feasable is it to produce oxygen from water to power generators for electricity producti

I'm aware of the Scientist that plans to use windmills and ocean wave power to "pump" air to bladders on the sea floor,using the depths to provide pressure,then release that air through "piping" to generators on the surface that produce electricity,-in my opinion,that process will require just as much energy to force air down to those bladders under all that pressure.There has been scientific discussion for awhile about if there is water /ice present on the moon,mars,ect.,-we would have the ability to produce oxygen to sustain exploration-COULD WE USE THAT SAME TECHNOLOGY using sea water to produce oxygen gas on the sea floor,and utilizing the immence pressures at those depths,propel the oyxgen gas back to the surface to operate electric power producing generators?-( please elaborate w/answers)



REVISED:How feasable is it to produce oxygen from water to power generators for electricity production?coolest myspace





If the Oxygen could be separated, there would also be Hydrogen liberated which could be used as an energy source as well.



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They're two seperate things. Using the energy to pump air, then use the movement of the air to turn turbines is different from producing oxygen. To produce oxygen gas you need to electrolyse water to produce hydrogen and oxgen, a process requiring a lot of electrical energy.



While the wave-powered pumps scheme sounds technically challenging it could be possible, although I doubt it would be very effective. Using the products of water electrolysis would be useless and combustion of the products would not produce as much energy as it takes to produce the gas.



In short, no.
The fundamental problem with this idea is that you will have a much more efficient system if you use the windmills and wave generators to supply the electrical energy directly.



One of the problems with this scheme is that you must compress the gases, and that takes energy. You cannot get more energy out of the compressed gases than you put into them during compression. This is a fundamental law of thermodynamics.
I believe that I understand the central core of your question, a clean source of energy for electricity production. Salt water would certainly be conductive enough, and pressures would be relative such that accumulation of oxygen would happen in the situation that you are asking about. Power lines running down to the installation would certainly be feasible. Who is going to fix anything that breaks is one concern. Raising the equipment to the surface has technical issues that would raise the cost. Deep submersion vehicles or hard suit diver equipment is expensive. There is also the question of where the energy is going to come from to make the oxygen to begin with. Is the conversion profitable is the #1 question for this idea. Can you get more oxygen for power production than what is needed to get the oxygen to begin with? I think not, unless you have a source of energy that would be free for the taking, with little or no service needs, or danger to anyone, thing, or environment. The benefit of your idea is simply not cost effective. If there were an energy source that would make it cost effective, why not just use it as a primary energy source to begin with? To really help the environment, we need to reduce carbon monoxide in the air. More trees and other plants would help a lot. How "green" with plants is your place of residence? Another thing to help the enviroment is to stop wanting so many electronic things. Keep what you have and be satisfied with it. True, not likely to happen, but all of that electronic junk in the land fills is leaching dangerous chemicals and metals into the water supply. So, the "I just gotta have that new game thing, or cell phone, or Ipod, or computer" is actually helping to pollute the air, and water. Cry foul about the power plants and oil and chemicals all you want, but the maniacal drive for all of the new gadgets is driving the pollution of our world.

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